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Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:53 pm
by GregoryGHarding
i think we all know what the reasons behind some of the messages we receive in regards to the reasons behind rejected shares, an example being "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" but one that makes no sense to me is rejected shares for the reason "miner is using an incorrect algorithm" obviously this reason isn't accurate or there's an underlying issue with the stratum. can you please shed some light on this reject reason in terms of why we would be getting it, and what you guys plan to do about it. its simply an inaccurate error.. and why is there no share corrections for it?

Thanks Bros

Re: Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:07 pm
by JKDReaper
Yes, I agree this one puzzles me to. At one point yesterday I had 20% errors, about 18% of those being "incorrect algorithm".

Re: Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:06 pm
by DrIsk
I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.

Re: Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:18 pm
by Steve Sokolowski
DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.

Re: Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:23 pm
by joshn712
Steve Sokolowski wrote:
DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.


I am not sure this answers the first question above?

Re: Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:40 pm
by DrIsk
Steve Sokolowski wrote:
DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.
This is good to know - thanks Steve. Hope to hear the result of that analysis when you've got it.

Re: Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:27 pm
by GregoryGHarding
Steve Sokolowski wrote:
DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.
you seem to have missed the topic question

Re: Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:30 pm
by mycide
Not the first time i see you asking either ^^

Re: Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:43 pm
by JKDReaper
joshn712 wrote:
Steve Sokolowski wrote:
DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.


I am not sure this answers the first question above?
Glad I'm not the only one to notice that. I've yet to ever hear a reason why.

Re: Rejected Share Reasons

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:05 am
by Steve Sokolowski
JKDReaper wrote:
joshn712 wrote:
Steve Sokolowski wrote:
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.


I am not sure this answers the first question above?
Glad I'm not the only one to notice that. I've yet to ever hear a reason why.
The reason there are stale shares is because sometimes performance issues in the mining server result in 100% CPU usage. When that happens, we know that a block is stale but there aren't enough resources available to compute the next coin assignment. Shares are rejected until all the backlogged calculations finish and current work is able to be computed for all miners.